If the vinyl and/or The Aeroplane Flies High were included in the deluxe package I would buy this. But it´s just too expensive. Shame.
Hoping the Aeroplane / Adore / Machina / Zeitgeist will have the same format as the first three boxes. I love those.
# 26 October 2012 at 1:54 am
Russ said:
They can’t be serious about the price can they? They do know there’s a recession on? If it stays at that price I will not be buying it. Been really looking forward to this coming out so hope they see sense and sell it for around £20-£30.
# 26 October 2012 at 2:07 am
b.v. said:
Just to show I´m not complaining for nothing. In the Netherlands both the cd and the vinyl version will retail for 180 euro´s, which right now is 234 US dollar.
# 26 October 2012 at 5:04 am
Wes C. Addle said:
Corgan to continues to bitch about artists currently capitalizing on nostalgia, and then this becomes available. What is wrong with him?
# 26 October 2012 at 5:21 am
Megamania said:
He’s not “capitalizing on nostalgia,” as these reissues don’t really make money. It’s just a way to release a lot of songs that have been collecting dust for almost 20 years. If he was “capitalizing on nostalgia,” he wouldn’t be playing his new album live in its entirety, and instead would be playing his old albums start to finish as is the trend with so many of his peers these days. This obviously would be a nice money maker for him and the band, but it’s something he won’t do.
£20-30 is unrealistic given that the other 3 disc re-issues were selling for that. Having said that £60-70 would be my limit on this. There’s a lot of cool stuff in there and it looks amazing.
# 26 October 2012 at 9:11 am
paulonious said:
yes, he’s playing his new album live. but he’s spending a LOT of time on nostalgia. if he wanted to just release the unheard stuff, he’d just release them as stand alone vinyl and/or cd. instead, he’s repackaging old stuff with some bonus crap for an ungodly sum of money.
# 26 October 2012 at 9:51 am
Jack Irons said:
Hewett:
EV is the epitome of his own lyrics…
# 26 October 2012 at 10:11 am
Zod said:
for some reason amazon.ca has the vinyl cheaper than everywhere else:
I’ve seen it around 75 elsewhere so I think amazon.ca has a price error up right now. I ordered one.
# 26 October 2012 at 10:26 am
Megamania said:
Oh, come on. Overpriced? You can buy the Gish reissue on Amazon, 2 cds and a DVD for under $26. Siamese Dream’s $25.18. These reissues are more collector’s items, so you’re paying a lot for the packaging. With Mellon Collie, of course it’s going to cost more. It’s a top-lift velvet lined box, a lot more discs, and 64 bonus tracks. Maybe he shouldn’t have made it so fancy and costly (who needs a Decoupage kit?), but it’s a special release. The amount of bonus material is ridiculous.
In comparison, the Pearl Jam Vs./Vitalogy Collector’s Edition remastered box is $189. The Ten Super Deluxe box sells for $395.49; the regular Collector’s Edition is $140 and you’re only getting the album remastered plus few bonus tracks. Look at the packaging though – it’s impressive! This stuff costs money to produce, and I have no problem with bands putting together a nice package for their super fans. Again, right or wrong, these are more for collectors, and I don’t really think it makes the band much money.
# 26 October 2012 at 11:51 am
Zod said:
I suppose I shouldn’t have posted that link. They’ve now bumped it to 65.99
# 26 October 2012 at 11:57 am
Creative Grunge Reference said:
He is definitely cashing in on nostalgia. To the comment that they don’t make any money of these — that is simply not true. The main costs associated with making an album are the studio time, engineer, producer and marketing. No studio, no engineer, no producer, no marketing (nostalgia) — the only costs are the production of the package, which is pennies. The profit margin on reissues, remasters, greatest hits, etc are great in comparison to a new album. If he wasn’t cashing in he could release these things for free. He’s done it with the first half of Teargarden and the SPRC. Ultimately, who would pay this much for what really is a bunch of sub-par remixes and demos, outside of someone who is nostalgic.
He is definitely cashing in on nostalgia. That’s how ‘artists’ fund their new projects, by repackaging the old ones. No surprise and no big deal, but out of my price range. I’d rather have The Aeroplane Flies High boxed CD Single Set remastered and reissued in a 5 disk flip case.
I’m going to counter argue that the Vinyl reissues of Gish/Siamese Dream/Picses Iscariot have all been fairly cheap (At least in my opinion).
I already had Siamese Dream but I picked up Gish for about 20 bux and Piceses Iscariot for 24ish? If you compare that to current vinyl prices its actually pretty inexpensive.
Most new vinyl that I see is 29.99 to 39.99 in price.
Melon Collie seems expensive but it is a 4lp set instead of 2lp. I was ecpecting it to be around 50ish. So 70ish makes it a bit steeper.
I would think if Mr. Corgan was out for a cash grab the vinyl sets for the first 3 reissues would of been alot more expensive. Mellon Collie looks like it comes in quite the Box Set. Maybe that explains why its 20 or 30 dollar overpriced?
# 26 October 2012 at 8:11 pm
Megamania said:
When I think of nostalgia, I think of longing for something from the past. I want to hear these songs because they’re unreleased and have never heard most of them, not because I have a sentimental attachment to them.
# 26 October 2012 at 9:02 pm
Creative Grunge Reference said:
If Billy were to release a remastered version of Oceania with a bonus disc of demos tomorrow would you feel the same way about that? Likely not, because it’s new. So what’s the difference between this scenario and what he is doing with the reissues — the passage of time. Because the album is 15 some years old, you have a sentimental attachment to it and this means something to you. If this scenario happened with Oceania tomorrow it would be met a wtf, I just bought it. But 15 years from now you will think it’s cool because you will have sentimentality for it and nostalgia by then.
# 26 October 2012 at 9:12 pm
Russ said:
If no one buys it will they bring the price down?
# 27 October 2012 at 4:25 am
Millz said:
It will be cheaper next year. The Pearl Jam & Soundgarden box sets came down in price after about 12 months, if you have the patienece to wait.
# 28 October 2012 at 4:25 am
Yuri said:
Bought the vinyl box set from Amazon Canada for only $29 plus $10 shipping. The next day the price was $64..I guess I was lucky!
# 14 November 2012 at 2:33 am
Jeff said:
Everyone likes to make money, but if he was extremely money hungry, it seems odd that he would release Teargarden for free online. He has been quite generous in regards to the amount of music he and the band have released for free. Not to mention all of the money donated from one of legs of the Adore tour. I will buy the reissue on vinyl, because I do not have it on vinyl and the original is too expensive on ebay….
If the vinyl and/or The Aeroplane Flies High were included in the deluxe package I would buy this. But it´s just too expensive. Shame.
Hoping the Aeroplane / Adore / Machina / Zeitgeist will have the same format as the first three boxes. I love those.
They can’t be serious about the price can they? They do know there’s a recession on? If it stays at that price I will not be buying it. Been really looking forward to this coming out so hope they see sense and sell it for around £20-£30.
Just to show I´m not complaining for nothing. In the Netherlands both the cd and the vinyl version will retail for 180 euro´s, which right now is 234 US dollar.
Corgan to continues to bitch about artists currently capitalizing on nostalgia, and then this becomes available. What is wrong with him?
He’s not “capitalizing on nostalgia,” as these reissues don’t really make money. It’s just a way to release a lot of songs that have been collecting dust for almost 20 years. If he was “capitalizing on nostalgia,” he wouldn’t be playing his new album live in its entirety, and instead would be playing his old albums start to finish as is the trend with so many of his peers these days. This obviously would be a nice money maker for him and the band, but it’s something he won’t do.
“if you hate something, don’t you do it, too…”
corgan IS that fine vedder lyric.
£20-30 is unrealistic given that the other 3 disc re-issues were selling for that. Having said that £60-70 would be my limit on this. There’s a lot of cool stuff in there and it looks amazing.
yes, he’s playing his new album live. but he’s spending a LOT of time on nostalgia. if he wanted to just release the unheard stuff, he’d just release them as stand alone vinyl and/or cd. instead, he’s repackaging old stuff with some bonus crap for an ungodly sum of money.
Hewett:
EV is the epitome of his own lyrics…
for some reason amazon.ca has the vinyl cheaper than everywhere else:
http://www.amazon.ca/Mellon-Collie-Infinite-Sadness-Vinyl/dp/B008Z9L94O/ref=mb_oe_l
I’ve seen it around 75 elsewhere so I think amazon.ca has a price error up right now. I ordered one.
Oh, come on. Overpriced? You can buy the Gish reissue on Amazon, 2 cds and a DVD for under $26. Siamese Dream’s $25.18. These reissues are more collector’s items, so you’re paying a lot for the packaging. With Mellon Collie, of course it’s going to cost more. It’s a top-lift velvet lined box, a lot more discs, and 64 bonus tracks. Maybe he shouldn’t have made it so fancy and costly (who needs a Decoupage kit?), but it’s a special release. The amount of bonus material is ridiculous.
In comparison, the Pearl Jam Vs./Vitalogy Collector’s Edition remastered box is $189. The Ten Super Deluxe box sells for $395.49; the regular Collector’s Edition is $140 and you’re only getting the album remastered plus few bonus tracks. Look at the packaging though – it’s impressive! This stuff costs money to produce, and I have no problem with bands putting together a nice package for their super fans. Again, right or wrong, these are more for collectors, and I don’t really think it makes the band much money.
I suppose I shouldn’t have posted that link. They’ve now bumped it to 65.99
He is definitely cashing in on nostalgia. To the comment that they don’t make any money of these — that is simply not true. The main costs associated with making an album are the studio time, engineer, producer and marketing. No studio, no engineer, no producer, no marketing (nostalgia) — the only costs are the production of the package, which is pennies. The profit margin on reissues, remasters, greatest hits, etc are great in comparison to a new album. If he wasn’t cashing in he could release these things for free. He’s done it with the first half of Teargarden and the SPRC. Ultimately, who would pay this much for what really is a bunch of sub-par remixes and demos, outside of someone who is nostalgic.
He is definitely cashing in on nostalgia. That’s how ‘artists’ fund their new projects, by repackaging the old ones. No surprise and no big deal, but out of my price range. I’d rather have The Aeroplane Flies High boxed CD Single Set remastered and reissued in a 5 disk flip case.
Hewett ‘s comment for the win.
I’m going to counter argue that the Vinyl reissues of Gish/Siamese Dream/Picses Iscariot have all been fairly cheap (At least in my opinion).
I already had Siamese Dream but I picked up Gish for about 20 bux and Piceses Iscariot for 24ish? If you compare that to current vinyl prices its actually pretty inexpensive.
Most new vinyl that I see is 29.99 to 39.99 in price.
Melon Collie seems expensive but it is a 4lp set instead of 2lp. I was ecpecting it to be around 50ish. So 70ish makes it a bit steeper.
I would think if Mr. Corgan was out for a cash grab the vinyl sets for the first 3 reissues would of been alot more expensive. Mellon Collie looks like it comes in quite the Box Set. Maybe that explains why its 20 or 30 dollar overpriced?
When I think of nostalgia, I think of longing for something from the past. I want to hear these songs because they’re unreleased and have never heard most of them, not because I have a sentimental attachment to them.
If Billy were to release a remastered version of Oceania with a bonus disc of demos tomorrow would you feel the same way about that? Likely not, because it’s new. So what’s the difference between this scenario and what he is doing with the reissues — the passage of time. Because the album is 15 some years old, you have a sentimental attachment to it and this means something to you. If this scenario happened with Oceania tomorrow it would be met a wtf, I just bought it. But 15 years from now you will think it’s cool because you will have sentimentality for it and nostalgia by then.
If no one buys it will they bring the price down?
It will be cheaper next year. The Pearl Jam & Soundgarden box sets came down in price after about 12 months, if you have the patienece to wait.
Bought the vinyl box set from Amazon Canada for only $29 plus $10 shipping. The next day the price was $64..I guess I was lucky!
Everyone likes to make money, but if he was extremely money hungry, it seems odd that he would release Teargarden for free online. He has been quite generous in regards to the amount of music he and the band have released for free. Not to mention all of the money donated from one of legs of the Adore tour. I will buy the reissue on vinyl, because I do not have it on vinyl and the original is too expensive on ebay….
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